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A-143-81
Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, Director of Investigation and Research appointed under the Combines Investigation Act and Mr. H. H. Griffin (Appellants) (Respondents)
v.
Harold Irvine, Namasco Limited, Charles Ian McKay, Drummond McCall Inc., Samuel, Son & Co. Limited, W. Grant Brayley, Westeel-Rosco Limited, York Russel Inc., L. F. Newbery, Norman Katzman, John M. White, Leon Robi- doux, Timothy H. Coughlin, Newman Steel Ltd., Benjamin P. R. Newman, Sigmund R. Taube, Zenon P. Karcz, Peter R. Sheppard, Lorne Gilbert Coons, James Arthur Jobin, Donald Charles Grin- stead, Hugh Fitzgerald Thomson, William Alex- ander Mowat, and Bruce Scott Moore (Respond- ents) (Applicants)
Court of Appeal, Thurlow C.J., Pratte and Urie JJ.—Toronto, November 19, 20 and December 15, 1981.
Prerogative writs — Certiorari, prohibition and mandamus
— Appeal from Trial Division decision to quash certain rulings made by officer who presided over inquiry into restric tive trade practices — Applicants were not permitted to be present with counsel throughout the whole of the examinations
— Counsel were not permitted to re-examine their own clients without restriction or to cross-examine witnesses — Drum- mond McCall Inc. was denied an adjournment to seek counsel
— Cross-appeal from refusal to interfere with hearing offi cer's decision to question witnesses during the course of their evidence and his decision that objective cause need not be given before the commencement of such an inquiry — Whether Trial Division erred — Appeal allowed and cross-appeal dismissed — Combines Investigation Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. C-23, ss. 5, 7, 8, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 22(2)(a), 27, 32(1), 47(1),(2) — Federal Court Act, R.S.C. 1970 (2nd Supp.), c. 10, s. 28.
Appeal from a decision of the Trial Division which ordered certiorari quashing the decisions of a hearing officer made in the course of his examination of witnesses pursuant to section 17 of the Combines Investigation Act. The hearing officer refused to permit persons under investigation and witnesses, where represented by counsel, to be present throughout the whole of the examinations. He also refused to permit counsel to examine and re-examine without restriction their own clients or to cross-examine other witnesses. Finally, he refused to adjourn the examination to permit Drummond McCall Inc. to apply to a Commissioner to allow it to be represented by counsel at the
inquiry. The respondents cross-appeal from the remainder of the Trial Division order which denied the application to quash the decision to put questions to the witnesses in the course of their evidence and the decision that objective cause need not be given when an inquiry is commenced under paragraph 8(b) of the Combines Investigation Act. The issue is whether the Trial Division erred in its decision.
Held, the appeal is allowed. As there is no provision prescrib ing the procedure for the examination of witnesses under subsection 17(1), either at the inquiry stage or at any other stage, it is for a member of the Commission to determine what procedure should be followed. It is also for the Commissioner, subject to the provisions for privacy contained in subsection 27(1), to determine what persons will be permitted to attend the examination of a person under oath under subsection 17(1), save that he does not have the right to bar counsel representing the person being examined. Further, the requirement of subsec tion 20(1) that the Commissioner permit a person who is being examined under oath to be represented by counsel goes no further than to require the Commissioner to permit counsel for the person to be present and to represent his client while the client is being examined under oath. This imports no more than to advise the client as to his rights in respect of particular questions, to object to improper questioning and to ensure that his client is given an opportunity to tell the whole of his story and in such a way as not to create false impressions of what he means by his answers. It does not import a right either to be present during the examination of other witnesses or to cross- examine any of them. The rulings made by the hearing officer have not deprived the respondents of any right to which they are entitled. As the rulings in question amount to no more than an indication to persons present of the course the hearing officer, who was not a member of the Commission, proposed to follow in the examination of the witnesses to be called, they should not have been interfered with, both because there is nothing about them that is erroneous in law and further because they were not decisions of a kind that would necessarily be final or not subject to change should a member of the Commission, in whom whatever discretion there is resides, direct a different course. The refusal of Mr. Griffin to grant an adjournment did not deprive him of jurisdiction. The cross- appeal is dismissed. With respect to Mr. Griffin's decision to put questions to the witnesses in the course of their evidence, in the absence of a provision to the contrary in the statute, it is plainly open to either a member of the Commission or a person designated by him under subsection 17(1) to put questions relating to the subject-matter of the inquiry to the persons being examined before him. It was submitted that it was incumbent on the Director, before the examination of persons under subsection 17(1) could proceed, to prove for those present his basis for initiating the inquiry, that such inquiry was in progress and that the examination of witnesses was to be conducted in furtherance of the inquiry. The proceeding is not a trial and it is not incumbent on the Director to prove anything before proceeding to examine the witnesses ordered by a Com missioner to attend and give evidence. The statute authorizes a member of the Commission either on an ex parte application or
of his own motion to order the examination. The order he makes is all that is necessary to authorize the Commissioner or the person designated to proceed immediately to the examina tion of the witnesses.
Guay v. Lafleur [1965] S.C.R. 12, considered. St. John v. Fraser [1935] S.C.R. 441, considered. The Corporation of the Township of Innisfi! v. The Corporation of the Town ship of Vespra [1981] 2 S.C.R. 145, distinguished. Re The Ontario Crime Commission, Ex parte Feeley and McDer- mott [1962] O.R. 872, distinguished.
APPEAL. COUNSEL:
G. R. Garton for appellants.
J. E. Sexton, Q.C. for respondent Harold Irvine.
J. S. Leon for respondents Namasco Limited and Charles Ian McKay.
J. Chipman, Q.C. for respondent Drummond McCall Inc.
W. J. Miller for respondents Samuel, Son & Co. Limited and W. Grant Brayley.
R. B. Smith for respondent Westeel-Rosco Limited.
F. J. C. Newbould, Q.C. for respondents York Russel Inc., L. F. Newbery, Norman Katz- man, John M. White, Leon Robidoux and Timothy H. Coughlin.
R. Mongeon for respondents Newman Steel Ltd., Benjamin P. R. Newman, Sigmund R. Taube, Zenon P. Karcz and Peter R. Sheppard.
J. Weir for respondents Lorne Gilbert Coons, James Arthur Jobin, Donald Charles Grin- stead, Hugh Fitzgerald Thomson, William Alexander Mowat and Bruce Scott Moore.
SOLICITORS:
Deputy Attorney General of Canada for appellants.
Osler, Hoskin & Harcourt, Toronto, for respondent Harold Irvine.
Campbell, Godfrey & Lewtas, Toronto, for respondents Namasco Limited and Charles Ian McKay.
Ogilvy, Renault, Montreal, for respondent Drummond McCall Inc.
Smith, Lyons, Torrance, Stevenson & Mayer, Toronto, for respondents Samuel, Son & Co. Limited and W. Grant Brayley.
Blake, Cassels & Graydon, Toronto, for respondent Westeel-Rosco Limited.
Tilley, Carson & Findlay, Toronto, for respondents York Russel Inc., L. F. Newbery, Norman Katzman, John M. White, Leon Robidoux and Timothy H. Coughlin.
Phillips & Vineberg, Montreal, for respond ents Newman Steel Ltd., Benjamin P. R. Newman, Sigmund R. Taube, Zenon P. Karcz and Peter R. Sheppard.
Stikeman, Elliott, Robarts & Bowman, Toronto, for respondents Lorne Gilbert Coons, James Arthur Jobin, Donald Charles Grinstead, Hugh Fitzgerald Thomson, Wil- liam Alexander Mowat and Bruce Scott
Moore.
The following are the reasons for judgment rendered in English by
THURLOW C.J.: This case raises a number of issues as to the rights of witnesses and others and of counsel appearing for them at an examination of persons under oath pursuant to section 17 of the Combines Investigation Act, R.S.C. 1970, c. C-23. The proceedings consist of an appeal and a cross- appeal from a judgment of the Trial Division [ [ 1982] 1 F.C. 72] which granted in part and refused in part an application brought by the respondents under section 18 of the Federal Court Act, R.S.C. 1970 (2nd Supp.), c. 10, for
... writs of certiorari and prohibition to restrain and set aside all proceedings pending before Mr. H.H. Griffin under the apparent authority of section 17 of the Combines Investigation Act on the ground that he is without authority to preside over them.
AND under reserve of the foregoing, for an order to issue writs of certiorari, prohibition or mandamus to overturn deci sions, orders or rulings hereinbefore delivered by Mr. H.H. Griffin, including the following:
(a) a refusal to permit persons whose conduct is being inquired into and persons who are being examined to be present throughout the whole of the Inquiry;
(b) a refusal to permit counsel for the Applicants to examine or cross-examine witnesses in the said Inquiry;
(c) a refusal to permit counsel for the witness to ask ques tions of the witness except to clarify or explain evidence already given by the witness;
(d) a refusal to require or permit Mr. James T. Kirch to give evidence and to permit counsel for the Applicants to ask questions of Mr. Kirch, the witness having been sworn as a witness in the said Inquiry, and having commenced to give evidence;
(e) a refusal of an application on behalf of Drummond McCall Inc. for an adjournment to permit an application to be made to a member of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission pursuant to section 20 of the Combines Investi gation Act to be represented by counsel; and
(f) his decision to put questions to the witnesses in the course of their evidence.
AND to compel Mr. H.H. Griffin or such other person as may properly so do to order the re-attendance of the witness James T. Kirch in order that counsel for the Applicants may ask questions of him.
AND to restrain Mr. H.H. Griffin from continuing to receive evidence until such time as this Honourable Court makes a final determination of the matters placed in issue by this application.
and refused a supplementary application for
... writs of certiorari and prohibition to restrain and set aside all proceedings pending before Mr. H.H. Griffin under the apparent authority of section 17 of the Combines Investigation Act on the ground that he is without authority to preside over them.
AND under reserve of the foregoing, for an order to issue writs of certiorari, prohibition or mandamus to overturn deci sions, orders or rulings hereinbefore delivered by Mr. H.H. Griffin, including the following:
(a) his decision that objective cause need not be given by Commission Counsel to the parties whose conduct is being inquired into when an inquiry is commenced under S.8(b) of the Combines Investigation Act R.S.C. 1970 c. C-23 as amended;
In the part of the first application granted by the Trial Division, the Court ordered and directed relief in the nature of certiorari:
... quashing the decisions of H.H. Griffin, made in the course of his examination of witnesses pursuant to s. 17 of the Combines Investigation Act, as follows:
(a) The refusal to permit persons whose conduct is being inquired into and witnesses, where represented by counsel, to be present throughout the whole of the examinations
(b) and (c) The refusal to permit counsel representing per sons whose conduct is being inquired into and counsel repre senting witnesses to examine or re-examine (as the case may be) without restriction, their own clients, or to cross examine other witnesses
(d) The refusal of the request by the applicant Drummond McCall Inc. for an adjournment of the examination, to permit the applicant to apply to a Commissioner to allow the applicant to be represented by counsel at the inquiry.
It is from this portion of the order that the appel lants appeal.
The order went on to deny the relief requested in the other portions of the application and in the supplementary application. The cross-appeal is against these portions of the order.
The applications to the Trial Division were sup ported by affidavits exhibiting copies of:
(1) a document signed by the Chairman of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission naming and designating H. H. Griffin as the person before whom the evidence of some 29 persons, who had been ordered to attend for examination under oath, should be taken;
(2) a document varying the date for the attend ance for examination of one of the persons ordered to attend;
(3) a copy of the order for the attendance of one of the 29 persons; and
(4) transcripts of the proceedings before H. H. Griffin held on February 25 and March 2, 3 and 4, 1981.
Each of the documents, including the transcripts, is entitled:
In the Matter of the Combines Investigation Act and Section 32 thereof
and
In the Matter of an Inquiry relating to the production, manu facture, purchase, sale and supply of flat rolled steel, plate steel, bar and structural steel and related products.
The order for the examination of witnesses under oath under subsection 17(1) is not in the record. Nor is there in the record any document of the Director or of the Commission indicating what or whose conduct was the subject of the inquiry. It appears however from the transcript of the pro ceeding for March 4, 1981, that at least one of the
respondents, Drummond McCall Inc. had received from the Director a letter addressed to the Compa- ny's Secretary setting out the caption of the inqui ry and reading:
Dear sir,
There will be a private hearing for the taking of evidence in this matter, before a member of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, or before a person named for the purpose by a member of the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission, at the Caledon Room, Second Floor, the Skyline Hotel, 655 Dixon Road, in the City of Rexdale, commencing at 10:00 in the morning, March 2, 1981.
I am enclosing an office consolidation of the Combines Investigation Act. Please note that Section 20, sub-section (1) of the Act reads as follows:
"20(1): A member of the Commission may allow any person whose conduct is being inquired into and shall permit any person who is being himself examined under oath to be repre sented by counsel."
The Company and its counsel assumed from this that the Company was a person whose conduct was being investigated within the meaning of sub section 20(1).
The transcripts also show that legal counsel representing a number of other companies and persons summoned for examination attended and that directors or officers of some companies attended to represent their companies. Such com panies as well had received notices from the Direc tor and assumed that their conduct was under inquiry. It was in the course of the proceedings that followed that the rulings attacked on the applications to the Court were sought by counsel and given by Mr. Griffin.
The Combines Investigation Act is a statute passed by Parliament in the exercise, at least for the most part, of its power to legislate in respect of the criminal law and procedure. It is divided into a number of parts dealing with such subjects as Investigation and Research, Consideration and Report, Special Remedies, Offences in Relation to Competition, Other Offences, and Investigation of Monopolistic Situations. By subsection 32(1), which occurs in Part V, dealing with offences in relation to competition, it is provided that:
32. (1) Every one who conspires, combines, agrees or arranges with another person
(a) to limit unduly the facilities for transporting, producing, manufacturing, supplying, storing or dealing in any product,
(b) to prevent, limit or lessen, unduly, the manufacture or production of a product, or to enhance unreasonably the price thereof,
(c) to prevent, or lessen, unduly, competition in the produc tion, manufacture, purchase, barter, sale, storage, rental, transportation or supply of a product, or in the price of insurance upon persons or property, or
(d) to otherwise restrain or injure competition unduly,
is guilty of an indictable offence and is liable to imprisonment for five years or a fine of one million dollars or to both.
By section 47 it is provided that:
47. (1) The Director
(a) upon his own initiative may, and upon direction from the Minister or at the instance of the Commission shall, carry out an inquiry concerning the existence and effect of condi tions or practices relating to any product that may be the subject of trade or commerce and which conditions or prac tices are related to monopolistic situations or restraint of trade, and
(b) upon direction from the Minister shall carry out a general inquiry into any matter that the Minister certifies in the direction to be related to the policy and objectives of this Act,
and for the purposes of this Act, any such inquiry shall be deemed to be an inquiry under section 8.
(2) It is the duty of the Commission to consider any evidence or material brought before it under subsection (1) together with such further evidence or material as the Commission considers advisable and to report thereon in writing to the Minister, and for the purposes of this Act any such report shall be deemed to be a report under section 19.
The Director so referred to is the Director of Investigation and Research appointed by the Gov ernor in Council under section 5 of the Act. The Commission referred to in subsection 47(2) is the Restrictive Trade Practices Commission appointed by the Governor in Council under section 16. The two have separate and very different functions under the statute, those of the Director under Part I being primarily concerned with inquiries and the assembly of evidence, those of the Commission under Part II primarily with the consideration of information reported to it by the Director and the reviewing and reporting of it to the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs along with its appraisal of the effect on the public interest of
arrangements and practices disclosed in the evi dence and its recommendations as to the applica tion of remedies provided in the Act or other remedies. Subject to advice by the Commission to the contrary and the exercise by the Minister of a discretion not to do so, such a report from the Commission is required by subsection 19(5) to be made public within thirty days.
Under section 7 any six persons who are of the opinion that certain matters in contravention of the Act have occurred may apply to the Director for an inquiry into them. Section 8 then provides:
8. The Director shall
(a) on application made under section 7,
(b) whenever he has reason to believe that
(i) a person has contravened or failed to comply with an order made pursuant to section 29, 29.1 or 30,
(ii) grounds exist for the making of an order by the Commission under Part IV.1, or
(iii) an offence under Part V or section 46.1 has been or is about to be committed, or
(c) whenever he is directed by the Minister to inquire whether any of the circumstances described in subparagraphs (b)(i) to (iii) exists,
cause an inquiry to be made into all such matters as he considers necessary to inquire into with the view of determining the facts.
I pause to note that there is nothing in the record but a statement in the reasons of the learned Trial Judge to indicate under which para graph or subparagraph of this section the inquiry which led to these proceedings was instituted or whether it was initiated under section 47. The learned Trial Judge says the inquiry was caused to be made under subparagraph 8(b)(iii). Perhaps so, but there is no initiating document to that effect in the record and the titles used in such documents as are in the record leave the matter in uncertainty, an uncertainty which may well be one of the root causes of some of the problems raised in these proceedings.
In aid of the inquiry that the Director is author ized to make, the Director is empowered:
(1) by section 9 to require persons and officers of corporations to make and deliver returns under oath or affirmation showing in detail such information with respect to the business of the persons named in a notice as is by the notice required,
(2) by section 10 to enter premises on which the Director believes there may be evidence relevant to the matters being inquired into, to examine any thing on the premises and copy or take away for further examination or copying any book, paper, record or other document that in the opinion of the Director or his representative may afford such evidence,
(3) by section 12 to require by notice in writing, evidence upon affidavit or affirmation, in every case in which it seems to him proper to do so.
These are extensive powers but in each case the power may be exercised by the Director only when, on an ex parte application, he has obtained a certificate of the Commission approving of the action the Director proposes to take. However, once the certificate of the Commission has been obtained it is the Director who exercises the power and carries out the proposed action.
If at any stage the Director is of the opinion that further inquiry is not justified he may discontinue it, subject to the concurrence of the Commission in a case where evidence has been brought before it, and so report to the applicants, if there were applicants, and to the Minister who, at the request of the applicants or of his own motion, may instruct the Director to make further inquiry. The Director may also, at any stage, and in addition to or in lieu of continuing the inquiry remit the evidence he has obtained to the Attorney General of Canada for consideration and such action as he may decide to take. These provisions are all set out in Part I of the Act, entitled Investigation and Research, which deals generally with the office of the Director and what he is empowered and required to do. There is also provision in subsec tion 18(1) which occurs in Part II under which the Director may prepare a statement of the evidence to be submitted to the Commission and to every person against whom an allegation is made in it.
Part II, entitled Consideration and Report, establishes the Commission and its general powers and functions. A Commissioner has authority under section 17 and the Commission as a body has authority under paragraph 22(2)(a) to require persons to be examined on oath and to produce documents. The Commission is required by subsec tion 18(3) to consider any statement of the evi dence submitted by the Director, after hearing argument and giving to every person against whom allegations have been made a full opportunity to be heard, and thereupon to make a report and transmit it to the Minister. This may result in publication of the report or in prosecutions being undertaken or both or in some situations in the removal of protective customs tariffs.
Whatever may have been the origin of the Director's inquiry in the present instance, it is at a stage where the exercise of the power of a Com missioner to require persons to be examined on oath and to produce documents had been invoked at the instance of the Director that the present proceedings arose. The record shows that some two years earlier there had been seizures of documents by the Director from some of the companies involved. But nothing in the record indicates that any statement of evidence as contemplated by subsection 18(1) had been prepared or submitted to the Commission or to any person or that that stage had been reached in the Director's inquiry.
The provisions of sections 17 to 21 that appear to have some relevance in the present situation follow:
17. (1) On ex parte application of the Director, or on his own motion, a member of the Commission may order that any person resident or present in Canada be examined upon oath before, or make production of books, papers, records or other documents to such member or before or to any other person named for the purpose by the order of such member and may make such orders as seem to him to be proper for securing the attendance of such witness and his examination, and the pro duction by him of books, papers, records or other documents and may otherwise exercise, for the enforcement of such orders or punishment for disobedience thereof, all powers that are
exercised by any superior court in Canada for the enforcement of subpoenas to witnesses or punishment of disobedience thereof.
(2) Any person summoned under subsection (1) is competent and may be compelled to give evidence as a witness.
(3) A member of the Commission shall not exercise power to penalize any person pursuant to this Act, whether for contempt or otherwise, unless, on the application of the member, a judge of the Federal Court of Canada or of a superior or county court has certified, as such judge may, that the power may be exercised in the matter disclosed in the application, and the member has given to such person twenty-four hours notice of the hearing of the application or such shorter notice as the judge deems reasonable.
(7) The Minister may issue commissions to take evidence in another country, and may make all proper orders for the purpose and for the return and use of evidence so obtained.
(8) Orders to witnesses issued pursuant to this section shall be signed by a member of the Commission.
18. (1) At any stage of an inquiry,
(a) the Director may, if he is of the opinion that the evidence obtained discloses a situation contrary to any provision in Part V, and
(b) the Director shall, if the inquiry relates to an alleged or suspected offence under any provision of Part V and he is so required by the Minister,
prepare a statement of the evidence obtained in the inquiry which shall be submitted to the Commission and to each person against whom an allegation is made therein.
(2) Upon receipt of the statement referred to in subsection (I), the Commission shall fix a place, time and date at which argument in support of such statement may be submitted by or on behalf of the Director, and at which such persons against whom an allegation has been made in such statement shall be allowed full opportunity to be heard in person or by counsel.
(3) The Commission shall, in accordance with this Act, consider the statement submitted by the Director under subsec tion (1) together with such further or other evidence or ma terial as the Commission considers advisable.
(4) No report shall be made by the Commission under section 19 or 22 against any person unless such person has been allowed full opportunity to be heard as provided in subsection ( 2 ).
19. (I) The Commission shall, as soon as possible after the conclusion of proceedings taken under section 18, make a report in writing and without delay transmit it to the Minister.
(2) The report under subsection (1) shall review the evidence and material, appraise the effect on the public interest of arrangements and practices disclosed in the evidence and con tain recommendations as to the application of remedies pro vided in this Act or other remedies.
20. (1) A member of the Commission may allow any person whose conduct is being inquired into and shall permit any person who is being himself examined under oath to be repre sented by counsel.
(2) No person shall be excused from attending and giving evidence and producing books, papers, records or other docu ments, in obedience to the order of a member of the Commis sion, on the ground that the oral evidence or documents required of him may tend to criminate him or subject him to any proceeding or penalty, but no oral evidence so required shall be used or receivable against such person in any criminal proceedings thereafter instituted against him, other than a prosecution for perjury in giving such evidence or a prosecution under section 122 or 124 of the Criminal Code in respect of such evidence.
21. The Commission or any member thereof has all the powers of a commissioner appointed under Part 1 of the In quiries Act.
Subsection 27 (1) which occurs in Part III, en titled General, further provides:
27. (1) All inquiries under this Act shall be conducted in private, except that the Chairman of the Commission may order that all or any portion of such an inquiry that is held before the Commission or any member thereof be conducted in public.
It will be observed that in the procedure pre scribed by section 18 the statement of evidence prepared by the Director is to be submitted to the Commission and to each person against whom an allegation is made and the Commission is required before considering and reporting on it to hear argument in support of it and to give to each such person full opportunity to be heard in person or by counsel. The Commission is also authorized by subsection 18(3) to consider further or other evidence.
By contrast subsection 17(1) is silent as to the rights of anyone whose conduct is under inquiry to be present or to participate in the examination of persons summoned for examination. The only sec tion dealing with this subject, and it deals with it only obliquely, is section 20. This authorizes the Commission to allow a person whose conduct is under investigation to be represented by counsel and requires the Commission to permit a person who is being examined under oath to be represent ed by counsel. The section goes on to provide for the rights of such a person with respect to ques-
tions tending to criminate him. Section 20 appears to me to apply whenever witnesses are to be exam ined, whether under subsection 17(1) or for the purposes of subsection 18(3) or under paragraph 22(2)(a). But, as I read it, subsection 20(1) deals only with representation by counsel and does not confer on the counsel rights that the client himself does not have either to be present or to question witnesses. Such rights, as it seems to me, depend on the nature of the particular proceeding or stage in which witnesses are being examined on oath.
As there is no provision prescribing the proce dure for the examination of witnesses under sub section 17(1), either at the inquiry stage or at any other stage, in my opinion, it is for a member of the Commission to determine what procedure should be followed. What the Commissioner pre scribes will, no doubt, depend on the particular proceeding. Procedure that might be appropriate for a short inquiry that is narrow in its scope may be quite inappropriate and inconvenient for a wide-ranging inquiry involving a large number of witnesses and a large number of persons whose conduct is the subject of the inquiry. Except for the simplest instances it would seem practical, in respect of examinations in the course of an inquiry, to settle in advance what the procedure is to be, particularly if, on the basis of what is already known or what the inquiry has so far discovered, it is apparent that allegations of misconduct against particular persons are likely to be involved in any statement of evidence the Director may make to the Commissioner at the conclusion of his inquiry. The credibility of such a statement of evidence will necessarily be dependent on the credibility of the evidence upon which it is founded. That in turn will be affected by the procedure that has been followed to obtain the evidence and the care that has been taken to obtain and test it. In testing it, cross-examination by parties whose conduct is under investigation or by their counsel might well be useful. But whether or not cross-examination by persons whose conduct is under investigation or by their counsel is to be permitted in the examination in the course of an inquiry of persons under oath under subsection 17(1) is, in my opinion, a matter
for the decision of a member of the Commission. It is also for the Commissioner, subject to the provi sions for privacy contained in subsection 27(1) to determine what persons will be permitted to attend the examination of a person under oath under subsection 17(1) save that he does not have the right to bar counsel representing the person being examined. Further, in my opinion, the requirement of subsection 20(1) that the Commissioner permit a person who is being examined under oath to be represented by counsel goes no further than to require the Commissioner to permit counsel for the person to be present and to represent his client while the client is being examined under oath. In my view, this imports no more than to advise the client as to his rights in respect of particular questions, to object to improper questioning and to ensure that his client is given an opportunity to tell the whole of his story and in such a way as not to create false impressions of what he means by his answers. It does not, in my view, import a right either to be present during the examination of other witnesses or to cross-examine any of them.
In the course of argument many cases were referred to and discussed including in particular The Corporation of the Township of Innisfil v. The Corporation of the Township of Vespra', Re The Ontario Crime Commission, Ex parte Feeley and McDermott 2 , Guay v. Lafleur 3 , The Queen v. Randolph 4 and St. John v. Fraser 5 .
In my view the judgment of the Supreme Court in the Innisfil case [supra] and that of the majori ty of the Ontario Court of Appeal in the Ontario Crime Commission case [supra] turn on, the application and effect of particular statutory provi sions governing or relating to the proceeding in which the question as to the rights of persons affected by the proceedings to participate in the examination and cross-examination of witnesses at the proceeding arose. They do not in my opinion afford assistance in resolving the present case.
1 [1981] 2 S.C.R. 145.
2 [1962] O.R. 872.
3 [1965] S.C.R. 12.
4 [1966] S.C.R. 260.
5 [1935] S.C.R. 441.
Here what is provided for by the statute at the stage reached is simply the taking of evidence under oath in private as a step or portion of an inquiry that may result in the evidence being remitted to the Attorney General of Canada under subsection 15(1), or in a statement under subsec tion 18 (1) for consideration by the Commissioner in a proceeding at which persons whose conduct is impugned by the statement are to be given full opportunity to be heard before a report is made to the Minister. There is no specific provision confer ring a right on anyone to be present or to cross- examine any witness.
The situation is not substantially different from that considered by the Supreme Court in St. John v. Fraser [supra] and not much different in princi ple from that in Guay v. Lafleur [supra] in both of which it was held that persons whose conduct or activities were under investigation were not en titled either to be present or to cross-examine witnesses called to give evidence in an investiga tion held to assemble evidence for presentation to another authority where, before action finally determining the rights of persons affected, such persons would have an opportunity to be heard, in the one case when on trial in a criminal court, in the other on appeal from an assessment based on the information so obtained. Both were cases of inquiries held in private and in that respect were not comparable with the inquiry under consider ation in the Ontario Crime Commission case [supra] .
I turn now to the particular orders involved in the appeal and cross-appeal.
Having regard to the views I have expressed, I think it follows that the rulings made by Mr. Griffin referred to in paragraphs (a), (b) and (c) of the originating notice have not deprived the respondents of any right to which they are entitled since neither persons whose conduct is being inquired into nor witnesses nor their counsel are
entitled as of right to cross-examine witnesses at the inquiry, nor are counsel for witnesses entitled as of right to ask questions though if not permitted to do so they might well ask the presiding officer to put questions to ensure that their clients' evi dence was complete and clear. The only rights counsel for others have to be present and to ask questions in my view are simply those which the Commissioner, within the limits as to privacy imposed by subsection 27(1), may allow. As the rulings in question amount in my view to no more than an indication to persons present of the course Mr. Griffin, who was not a member of the Com mission, proposed to follow in the examination of the witnesses to be called, in my opinion, they should not have been interfered with both because there is nothing about them that is erroneous in law and further because they were not decisions of a kind that would necessarily be final or not subject to change should a member of the Com mission, in whom whatever discretion there is resides, direct a different course. I do not think the situation as disclosed is one in which the Court should interfere, whether by certiorari or other wise, to impose its views on matters that are at least in the first instance for the Commissioner to decide. In my view therefore paragraphs (a), (b) and (c) of the order of the Trial Division should not be allowed to stand.
With respect to paragraph (d) of the order of the Trial Division, I am at a loss to understand how the refusal of Mr. Griffin to grant an adjourn ment deprived him of jurisdiction or what basis exists for quashing such a refusal.
I would therefore allow the appeal and set aside paragraphs (a), (b), (c) and (d) of the order.
Turning to the cross-appeal, for the same reason, that is to say, that counsel for persons whose conduct is under investigation have no right to cross-examine witnesses save to such extent as may, within the limits as to privacy imposed by subsection 27(1), be allowed by a member of the Commission, the relief sought with respect to the
matters referred to in paragraph (d) of the notice of motion in the Trial Division was, in my view, properly refused. I do not recall argument having been advanced in respect of the subject-matter of paragraph (f), Mr. Griffin's decision to put ques tions to the witnesses in the course of their evi dence, but in any case in the absence of a provision to the contrary in the statute I think it is plainly open to either a member of the Commission or a person designated by him under subsection 17(1) to put questions relating to the subject-matter of the inquiry to the persons being examined before him.
This brings me to the subject raised in para graph (a) of the supplementary notice of motion that is to say:
... his decision that objective cause need not be given by Commission Counsel to the parties whose conduct is being inquired into when an inquiry is commenced under S.8(b) of the Combines Investigation Act R.S.C. 1970 c. C-23 as amended;
The learned Trial Judge dealt with the matter in the following passage [at pages 77-78] of his reasons:
The question of the Director's grounds for instigating the inquiry was raised, at some stage, before the hearing officer. It was contended that some evidence of some kind should be put before the hearing officer that there were some objective grounds on which the Director had instigated the inquiry proceedings. Mr. Griffin ruled that the Director or his repre sentatives did not have to present that evidence.
That ruling, and the failure of the respondents to put forward any objective evidence in these proceedings, invalidates, it is said, the whole inquiry procedure and of course the examina tion of the witnesses before Mr. Griffin.
I do not agree.
The authorization, or whatever it was, by the Director which set the whole inquiry proceedings in motion is not before me in these section 18 proceedings. Nor is it really attacked in these proceedings. If an attack is permissible, it should, to my mind, be the subject of appropriate proceedings (section 18 or 28 of the Federal Court Act) against the authorization of the Direc tor, not in a proceeding against rulings by a hearing officer. I find a reasonable analogy in the decision of Addy J. in Stevens v. Restrictive Trade Practices Commission [1979] 2 F.C. 159, particularly at page 160.
That submission, therefore, fails. That effectively disposes of the supplementary notice of motion, dated March 5, 1981 and paragraph (a) there set out.
The submission put forward, as I understand it, was that it was incumbent on the Director, before the examination of persons under subsection 17(1) could proceed, to prove for those present his basis for initiating the inquiry, that such inquiry was in progress and that the examination of witnesses was to be conducted in furtherance of the inquiry.
I do not disagree with the learned Trial Judge's disposition of the application. It seems to me, that in putting forward such a proposition counsel is seeking to treat the examination under subsection 17(1) as if it were the trial of a statutory charge following a not guilty plea in which it is incumbent on a prosecutor to show that the subject-matter falls within the jurisdiction of the presiding magis trate. In my view this is fallacious. The proceeding is not a trial and it is not incumbent on the Director to prove anything before proceeding to examine the witnesses ordered by a Commissioner to attend and give evidence. The statute authorizes a member of the Commission either on an ex parte application or of his own motion to order the examination. The order he makes and the designa tion, if he makes any, of a person to take the examination is, in my opinion, all that is necessary to authorize the Commissioner or the person desig nated to proceed immediately to the examination of the witnesses.
The cross-appeal accordingly fails.
In the result in my opinion the appeal should be allowed with costs, the order of the Trial Division should be set aside and in its place, there should be an order dismissing the application and the supple mentary application, both with costs. The cross- appeal should also be dismissed with costs.
URIE J.: I agree.
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PRATTE J.: I concur in the opinion of the Chief Justice. For the reasons he gives, I would dispose of the appeal and cross-appeal as he suggests.
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